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  • The free 12-step program: Tuesdays, 11am in New York
  • The community meeting: Thursdays, 7:30pm in New York

Both meetings run on Google Meet. To keep every room safe for the people in it, the join links are not published here. Sign up for the free 12 steps and Kathryn sends you the link herself, and members receive the community link by email each week.

Before your first meeting

Nothing is expected of you

You do not have to speak.

Plenty of people sit quietly for their first few weeks. Being witnessed is enough.

You do not have to be religious.

Kathryn’s story has her faith in it. The circle welcomes every belief and none.

You do not have to be a mother.

Fathers, siblings, grandparents and estranged parents all have a full seat.

You do not have to be newly bereaved.

Some of us lost our child last year. Some of us lost them twenty years ago.

The 12 steps on Tuesday are free and open to anyone. Leave your email and Kathryn sends you everything you need. The Thursday community meeting is for members, and the details are on the pricing page.